That is easily remedied by talking to a doctor. I don’t care about ppl trying to sway me away from my treatment,you haven’t lived my life. People dealing with psychiatrists often feel more comfortable being honest with this back-up which means they are more likely to get treatment that works for them. They are two side effects of antipsychotics. Do we really need SO many of them? I am trying to figure out what to do. It becomes a done-to vs. done-with thing. Working with the doctor to find better treatment is the answer. Oleanz Typical NAMI statement, it is painful to watch a family member in pain. Unfortunately, it’s up to each of us to rise above stigma because we certainly can’t sit around waiting for it to go away. How do I make her realise that she might be harming herself by not taking the medications? When you’re a kid, you don’t know how to be anything but what you are. It’s an excellent point. For ex: Reason for noncompliance: I believe I no longer need the meds My husband stopped taking depakote and effexor over a month ago. He thought that his meds would ‘interfere’ and would not allow him to give his best in the presentation of his PhDs. I don’t want them to read my med list as “crazy person”. Undiagnosed bipolar pasrtner broke up with my and shut me out. MY NEW PSYCH NEVER EVER GAVE UP AS DIDNT MY GP WHO HIRED HIM) SO I ALWAYS TELL MY SPECIALISTS IF THEY WANT TO ADD DRUGS TO THE MIX! Your email address will not be published. Hopefully a part two will make it’s way here at some point. And you would induce that on everybody, just because of some diagnostic label. Right now I am writing as a troubled brother as my elder sister is in the state of mental illness that has relapsed after two years. All medicine administered are mixed with his food. You have repeatedly stated that there’s better options for treatment if your current medication is unacceptable. | Queensland Mental Health, How Psychologists Can Harm Your Mental Health (But They Don’t Have to), The Lifeline Can Trace Calls. Never disregard the medical advice of your physician or health professional, or delay in seeking such advice, because of something you read on this Site. Took meds and the same thing. They have a doc and access, but they just stop going. This time is really bad. Understanding bipolar disorder. We are extremely worried about his medical condition. Anyway, I now think there is nothing else for me to do. But then I would *also* have to *stop taking them*—because if I got in a car wreck and a blood test showed those unreported psych meds in my body, a simple car accident could become vehicular homicide. Now my body expects a fresh infusion every night, that I must take in order to get decent sleep, on nights I’ve missed it, I couldn’t sleep, or get very bad sleep, so bad in fact, that I’ve had dreams in which I’m tired in my dream, wishing I could fall asleep- when I’m already asleep! What you can do, though, is quote _part_ of the article and link to the rest here. Now I think, she didn’t deserve my nonsense, she was very caring and actually read up on bipolar and cared, I cast her out, like I do everyone. I think the most important question to ask is why is the person refusing to take their medication. They both are in their late seventies and early eighties…he quit his job at age 38 because he started having panic attacks.. instead of addressing that issue by getting therapy.. he hid it or so he thot he was hiding it .. by playing off like he had a bad back.. that was what we were told to tell anyone who asked what was wrong with him.. classmates used fo ask me and I would just say he had bad nerves… I was only 11 when he quit work… it took him three years to get social security disability he got turned down two times… maybe he should have gotten turned down again for the last time .. then e would have had no choice but to seek therapy and co back to work doing something. I live in noida India. After much effort he was controlled by 5 indls and admitted to hospital. They think they’re cured or better, so they stop taking their meds, they get worse … and worse … and worse every time, and sad to see their comprehensive abilities disappear, replaced by delusion. Seems like that’s what my parents think, every time I get mad (like any other human being does) they attribute it to me not taking my “medicine” and the answer is more drugs. It’s been constant struggle for us. I’m not sure if you’ve looked into this book, but you may want to as it has many suggestions as to how to convince someone to get help: http://www.youneedhelpbook.com/You_Need_Help/Overview.html, This is also a great place to learn more about psychosis and that may help, too: http://www.bcss.org/category/resources/about-mental-illness/psychosis/. That’s more like an informed choice. I would like to be able to say something soothing here, but you and your family are in dangerous waters here. Ironic isn’t it? I know he needs help but he refuses. Mental conditions get a little more obscure. I work full time, I pay my bills, I raise my daughter on my own… I do have episodes, I do have to miss work from time to time, and moods are so not pretty on many given days… yet, each day I awake and have to monitor and manage myself without the assistance of meds. Me79: If you want an alternative solution to all those medications, try looking at other cultures besides yours and how they conceive of and deal with mental illness. She went off her meds and just had been in a downward spiral for about 8 months. Still the problem persists. I have never really had a job, but I have always provided, when I was married, I successfully ran a business and worked my ass off to a fault as my hours I put in impacted my marriage. I do have few problems with this article. The same applies for his doctor.. Think you don’t need them? I have nothing against an anti-biotics or vaccines (if you can call those drugs) say for a raging bacterial infection. Plz suggest me, if someone refuses to take medicine after becoming normal, and if we try to convince her that what she did before taking medicine, then she refuses to accept that she did all these things. If you had a thorn in your side, would you take a painkiller and ignore it, or would you PULL IT OUT? Once a person is well, they see the medication as a hindrance, forgetting that it is the medication that made them well. And, eventually, if you small-talk people enough, you start to talk about things which are more serious. He has become very depressed and lethargic. And I’m sure most people if not all who have this illness is sick of being sick. Try these tips for coping with the inevitable mood swings. So I need to drag my mind over. You care only about the outwardly. These challenges include facts, past experiences, my support team’s thoughts. If I can’t get my family to come and support me at the neurologist office… i definitely can’t get them to go to the psychiatrist’s office. I AM TOTALLY LOST , HE STOPPED TAKING MEDS, THREATED TO BURN THE HOUSE , HE TOLD ME HE HATES ME, HATES OUR OLDEST SON AND INGNORES THE OTHER SON, HOUSE IS IN FORCLOSURE HIS FAMILY WONT HELP UNTIL HE HITS ROCK BOTTOM.POLICE HAVE BEEN CALLED SO MANY TIMES BY NEIGHBORS DUE TO HIS RAGE. She has been suffering from this problem since 2007. Families can help by attending psychiatric appointments to help get treatment back on track in a way with which the patient agrees. I would think that the ethics of confidentiality only require his doctor not to talk to you, they don't prevent you from talking to his doctor. Or to believe that it’s okay or a good idea to “give our bodies a break” from this or that medication. We stopped his medication after we saw a marked change in his behaviour towards normalcy. I’d rather be emotionally unstable then dead. We have a list that I wrote of the reasons I do not want to take my medication, and “challenges” to those thoughts. It is pertinent to mention that my brother sachin is of very intimate and shy nature. Discover the common symptoms of and treatment options for depression. IT TOOK MY 18 YR OLD COUSIN. It sounds to me like ALL bipolar people do the same. I’m afraid I’ll stay right on task where I am,thank you. My doctor suggested this after my last episode of “treatment noncompliance” and the re-reading this list has helped prevent anymore! You are right, affordability is a huge factor for many people. And as I’ve said above, remind them that real honesty with their doctor is the most important thing and that they are in control of their own treatment. We’re trying out older psych meds which are 35$/month. I just found out recently that she has had these bipolar bouts for more than 20 years. But, if you are an adult, you always have the choice. Their medication is working but the side effects are intolerable. We disclaim all responsibility for the professional qualifications and licensing of, and services provided by, any physician or other health providers posting on or otherwise referred to on this Site and/or any Third Party Site. It takes me 1 step above the desire to kill myself and then leaves me laying.. on that 1 step. In general, being institutionalized is a pretty traumatic experience under the best of circumstances. Also, they did ask to list medications on my job application and new drivers license. Share with: Link: Copy link. Don’t you dare to call others “evil monsters”. brought on from the drugs? I never have I’m a vicious & VIOLENT PERSON w ANY KIND OF BOOZE IN ME so happily stay away!! Your email address will not be published. Well,yeah definitely had some on meds as well, He has not improved since starting the meds back. But, eventually, the siege is over. :) Thank you for this blog. See if you can work with your son in getting him closer to health instead of force medicating him leaving him closer to death. This number includes myself. You leave people that you don’t like behind. IVE LOTS OTHER MED ISSUES ALL DRUGS INTERACT SO WHY SPOIL A GREAT THING? Make the best call for you. My psychiatric medications were on some state “list” that got me on a state “list.” The result was that every year I lived in that screwy place I had to get my doctor to fill out a form saying that no, I still didn’t have a seizure disorder and no, I wasn’t going to suddenly lose it on the highway and ram my car into other people. If he wasn’t going to be passed, they wouldn’t convene his committee. So, it’s been more helpful for people to figure out what the cause was and try to figure out how to fulfill that need in a less destructive way. We have tried to talk him into taking his pills but in vain. Thank-you so much for your comment – I think that is a great idea! My wife was diagnosed with depression in 1998 following the deaths of my father and her mother. It’s wrong, it’s illogical, it’s harmful and it could kill you. Natasha Tracy is an award-winning writer, speaker, advocate and consultant from the Pacific Northwest. As that’s too long,you may have dangerous side effects ….I ask now can I see him in 2-1/2 weeks in case of problems? |, Do Medications For Mental Health Issues Work? I Don’t Think So, The Weight of a Chronic Illness Diagnosis, Judging Those Who Get Electroconvulsive Therapy (ECT). Try to stay sane yourself and take care of yourself, hopefully there will be more better times than bad times. You may want to take this medication as prescribed right now and then work with your doctor to find something different once the mania calms down. He has contacted his Dr., but was told that he has to see someone next week because his treatment plan has expired. I’m so conflicted on what right action would be. Hence why my psychiatrist has a list of the negative impact mania has on my work, my finances, my relationships etc. As a consumer I agree that stigma is one reason I become “treatment non-compliant”, but there’s plenty of other ones too. And it’s the same for you. I am about to start paperwork about putting him into hospital. do i want to suffer from this mental problem or suffer from this problem AND the liver failure and diabetes ect. Stupid doctors just want your money. One of the unfortunate side effects of taking Respiridal for so long, is now I am DEPENDANT on it. I did an abbreviated offshoot of DBT as treatment for some PTSD problems and it really helped me a lot. If I die, I die. my sister was diagnosed with bipolar some years back. Natasha, have you heard of Akathisia or Tardive Dyskenisia? I don’t know what kind of personal experience led you to talk in such absolutes, but “everyone is different” holds true. But, if you don’t start by demonstrating the self-control and selflessness essential to creating the simple foundations of a relationship, people are going to be “unsympathetic and have NO compassion”. Do the daughters need to hit their own bottom as in addiction? Please understand that if you’re manic, you may not know it and that’s why the medication is so important. to people newly diagnosed (who are often grasping at straws), that overall taking meds is a better way to manage the illness and lead your best life than doing without them. So is there anything you can do when a person refuses to take their medication? Share. It’s a CHEMICAL BRAIN ILLNESS acc TO ANY INTELLECTUAL ( not lame) PSYCH IVE EVER MET GENETIC. But, in my bipolar mind, no reason to take meds. shes on meds at the moment, but sometimes she forgets to take them, or she starts different meds, and she can get really bad. The medication seems to make her feel good, but does not control her problem. Subscribe to MedHelp's free newsletter for Community Support, Experience, and Guidance. ( too many movies?) The last year has been by far the worst. You can act “normal”, or at least show the sincere desire to try. Then there’s jail or all kinds of things that can separate us from our meds–like not being able to afford it, not being able to afford the doc, not being able to afford the prescription, not being able to leave the house. I have felt exactly the same way. She has lived a hard life. There’s a whole percentage of us whose condition is not responsive to medication and you’ve done exactly the recommended thing–you’ve used the non-medication treatments that have been shown to be clinically effective. So now she is living with her mom (who recently moved out of our home due to the pending divorce). In this case a loved one might want to approach the case logically and say that without treatment, the mentally ill patient can’t get better. He might think that on his medication he will not be as brilliant and exciting, but he has already established his talent by being in a PhD program. Bipolar husband, an open letter about your symptoms of bipolar disorder. It’s just hell knowing that there is little you can do when you know there is another medication that will really help her but she refuses to take it, and the hospital doctor should never have changed it. Now she is so traumatized she suspects anyone who suggests she take ANY medicine that she wasn’t already taking before the episode. I know it’s scary, but you can get through this time. She also read the side effects of the medicines and got further worried. She calls and leaves me messages where she is in danger or homeless or living with someone new. My husbant STOPPED taking all his meds--Help! As far as I’ve read everybody says it is very traumatic. PLS DONT!” AS ITS A DELICATE BALANCE Stigma makes (some) doctors less likely to listen to (some) of their patients (some) of the time. I always hurt when we lose someone to suicide. Pl Go through his case and give a frank opinion about his chances of full recovery and way ahead. I am probably what you consider med non compliant. It’s a choice he makes on a daily basis. At that point it’s hard to readjust, because part of it is admitting that things you think are essential to your personality – to who you are – are really just strategies developed to survive, and they aren’t the best strategies for today. It was compounded by making facial expressions using tongue and shouting in aggressive manner. We kids never knew if we were going to be able to eat … sometimes cornbread and milk for supper … it was a very dysfunctional family. Your fears are very real, but right now the benefits of this medication are thought to outweigh the risks for you, that’s why it has bee prescribed. Maybe the medical professional do not know what to do, so they shove drug after drug down the individual throat. The other meds just sat in the cabinet. Folfit I think there is something you’re really not looking at here. The severity of BP d/o and other MIs differ too. Many of us have been in the situation where side effects destroyed parts of our lives. The alternative concept is “medication interest level” on some scale. Our dear friend has two daughters in their late twenties who have. same goes for “miss their highs”. Actually my problem is more likely similar to urs..my elder brother is also having obsessive compulsive disorder…and he is not taking medicine…can u tell me how is ur brother now..is he taking medicine now..and if yes then what u did for that?..plz reply me.. If you feel like what you’re doing is right for you, and you can meet your obligations, then that’s what works for you. So no more meds, I am going to attempt to live my life as normal as possible. I am able to talk to her about taking them but that all goes in vain when it actually comes to taking the medicine. I could barely get them to take me, or bring me home, from my 5 psych inpatient hospitalizations. We’ve all been there and we’ve all seen the futility of taking some medications. Get out and dont look back. The answer to that really dictates what to do next. I take my meds, still learning how to manage triggers and meet with a counselor weekly. No dr in my new state. The hospital was just supposed to get her stable so we could continue her care on an out-patient basis, but a paperwork mistake—we were told—resulted in her being transferred to a recovery center. But it’s never made be feel better than before a big bad event in my life. All along I have been urging my wife to seek counseling for her depression but this was always met with opposition. You make a good point about medication and stigma. My mother has been diagnosed with Psychosis more than Bipolar disorder. So,as anything in life it’s a choice. i make sure im there for her, but i also check with her friends/mom/boyfriend to make sure theyre there for her too, because she needs other people to go to … Does anyone have any ideas to get a grown man to take his meds so he can be normal?” He just blew another union job…he’s all over the place and too dangerous to work. What do you blame it on then? There is another concept beside ‘noncompliant” or “nonadherent”. What will happen to my daughter? The medication may address this mania so you can make better decisions for your treatment. I panicked after a day of it and took her to the emergency room. And that would be true of many illnesses. Ups and downs continue. I take my daughter’s medication to her each night and watch her take it, yet I know she is not taking what she really needs to take. We want it to not be true so badly we’ll grasp at any straws to believe. Try to speak to that reason with compassion and concrete reasons why they should work with their doctor to rectify that problem rather than try to handle it on their own. They are threatening voices and she is sure that a chip was implanted during a visit to the dentist or when she had a colonoscopy or some other time when she was in the hospital. I know many people in my Bipolar support group who have stopped taking meds and are doing much better. I feel so alone now I truly understand true pain not being in control of your brain barely I’m starting to truly feel mental more than ever. He do not admit that he is sick and need medicine. Therefore the reason some people don’t take drugs is because they know better. I’m so sick of the medicine, I’m sick of being bipolar, I’m sick of being sick. Anyway,just for anyway coming across & reading this hope you never MIX ANY ALCOHOL W YOUR MEDS!” Since being divorced, the first couple years I didn’t do much, I was suicidal, drank way too much, I actually thought I would drink myself to death, which must take more effort then I gave as I didn’t pull it off. And is it a sane decision? My Dr.says I have to take a certain med for my Bipolar; she said I’m manic. But that’s me. Sadly after seeking intermittent counseling as a couple my wife decides to sue me for divorce last October due to my inability to make her happy. I love my daughter. What I find especially frustrating is that my wife will not allow our daughter to live with her if my daughter doesn’t agree to stay on medication and seek counseling. So those whose respect HUMAN RIGHTS and understand the wondrous (not) pharma pills don’t work for anybody are evil and destroy humanity…. But, the thing is, you have to get through the medication that doesn’t work to find the medication that does and going off of medication is not the way to do this. Larpose There are really three reasons mental illness patients are noncompliant. . Jon Press is a husband and father living in the Chicago suburbs. I’ve been following Natasha for a while now. She makes me feel scared, confused, guilty, panic and worried. i am so grateful for all the practical advice you gave me. I confronted him with this and he replied that they kept him awake at night and that he was fine now and didn't need them. I’m not judging you, and I don’t know how long it will take Natasha to post and I hate to put words in her mouth, but I doubt she means to judge you, either. What if the tables were turned on you Irene, and some monster starting saying you were mentally ill, and had the capacity to lock you away for a long time? It seems to stem the tide, perhaps it would be worse if I didn’t. What he needs to do to get the degree is simply to appear competent. There are GOOD reasons not to take pills (and recently a pill-happy person actually pointed me to research that 10% of people with bipolar simply DON’T get better on meds). I do think it’s important to look at things from the outside for a second and consider that there might be a connection between “other people who are unsympathetic and have NO compassion for people who are different” and “we have no filter…we tell the truth”. He had what we thought was depression 30 yrs ago. Yeppers, very tough patients to work with, takes a lot of time. So, never go above 600mg WHEN I take it. He finally admitted that he hasn’t been taking them & never plans to. There is actually much more to say about handling this problem, but, alas, I’ve gone long already. The medication isn’t working and their illness convinces them to go off their medication. Nothing. Why Do People with Mental Illness Stop Taking Medication? 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